Left-Wing Podcaster Jennifer Welch Says With Straight Face Charlie Kirk Justified His Own Murder

Left-wing podcaster Jennifer Welch claimed Turning Point USA (TPUSA) founder Charlie Kirk’s pro-Second Amendment advocacy justified his death during an episode of her “I’ve Had It” podcast that aired Saturday.

TPUSA CEO Erika Kirk did a town hall with CBS News editor-in-chief Bari Weiss that aired Saturday, during which she criticized those who justified her husband’s assassination. Welch and former CNN host Don Lemon attacked Kirk over his support of the Second Amendment and opposition to diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs. (RELATED: ‘Look In The Mirror’: Erika Kirk Tells Last Person To Speak To Her Husband Who Needs To Calm The Rhetoric Down)

“The person that I heard that justified his death was him,” Welch claimed. “He’s the one that said on tape that if school kids die, but it means he gets to have a Second Amendment, then that’s — that’s what it’s going to be. He’s the one that justified it and I believe at the time of shooting, he was talking about gun violence at the time. That’s wild to me, number one.”

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“And then for her — I want to get your opinion on this as a black man — for her to say that people are dehumanizing Charlie Kirk, I remember him dehumanizing a black pilot,” Welch continued. “He wouldn’t want to fly on a plane if a pilot was black, which is, you know, Turning Point, Turning Point, Turning Point, everywhere he went, it was the dehumanization of black people. So, I want to get your take on both of those things.”

During the CBS News town hall, Weiss noted that Kirk’s comments about hoping a black pilot was qualified was part of a larger discussion.

“I just got got off of a plane and I never did I once even think about what color the pilot is, you know, and I don’t care what color they are. I don’t care what ethnicity, I don’t care what gender they are, as long as they have the skills to fly the plane,” Lemon claimed. “So, I don’t look at it that way. And I think it’s ridiculous. He also said that black women didn’t have brain — enough brain-processing power. I don’t know if you remember that.”

Lemon’s claims took comments Kirk made during the July 13, 2023, episode of his show out of context. Kirk had been discussing former MS NOW host Joy Reid, Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas, former First Lady Michelle Obama and associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson. During the episode of the show, which aired weeks after the Supreme Court ruled against affirmative action programs in college admissions, Kirk played a clip of Jackson Lee proclaiming she was hired due to affirmative action. (RELATED: ‘He Gave Them A Microphone’: Erika Kirk Demolishes Claims Her Husband ‘Incited Violence’)

“Number one, as I was saying, I don’t know anyone that justified Charlie Kirk’s death, that said, ‘Oh, yeah, I’m so glad that he died and he deserved to die.’ I don’t know anyone who said that,” Lemon claimed. “Now, the internet can be cruel. I will agree with her on that, and you know that. Folks in the comments can be cruel. However, I believe the crux of her question or the framing of her question was wrong, because no one did. And those are two — those are separate things.”

ABC suspended late-night host Jimmy Kimmel on Sept. 17 after broadcast station ownership groups Nexstar and Sinclair Broadcasting announced they would not air his show following comments Kimmel made about Kirk’s assassination. Other comments that celebrated, mocked or justified Kirk’s assassination took place in various social media venues online, especially on platforms like BlueSky, leading to multiple people, including MSNBC political analyst Matthew Dowd and Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah, being fired.

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