A Senate hearing on chemical abortion drugs turned contentious Wednesday when a Democrat witness repeatedly declined to answer a direct question from Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., about whether men can get pregnant.
The exchange took place during a hearing titled “Protecting Women: Exposing the Dangers of Chemical Abortion Drugs,” where Dr. Nisha Verma appeared as a witness opposing the premise that chemical abortion drugs pose risks to women.
Verma testified as a medical expert, describing herself as a board-certified obstetrician and gynecologist who focuses on reproductive health care.
During her testimony, Verma stated that “evidence should control, not politics” when shaping public policy and medical decisions. Hawley later referenced that statement as he began his questioning.
“Dr. Verma, do you think that men can get pregnant?” Hawley asked.
Verma did not directly answer the question, instead responding, “I was not sure where the conversation was going, I was not sure what the goal is. I take care of patients with many different identities…Many women.”
Hawley replied, “The goal is just the truth. Can men get pregnant?”
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Verma again avoided a direct response, saying, “Again, the reason I paused there is because I’m not sure what the goal…”
Hawley then referenced her earlier testimony.
“The goal is just to establish a biological reality. You just said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics. So, let’s just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?”
Verma responded, “I take care of people with many identities, but um…”
Hawley repeated the question. “Can men get pregnant?”
“Many women can get pregnant. I take care of many people,” Verma said.
Hawley again cited her statement about evidence guiding medicine.
“Let me just remind you what you testified to moments ago: evidence should control, not politics. So, can men get pregnant?”
“I believe that science and evidence should guide medicine…” Verma replied.
Hawley pressed further. “Can men get pregnant?”
“I also believe that yes/no questions are a political tool,” Verma said.
“Yes/no questions are about the truth, doctor. Let’s not make a mockery of this proceeding,” Hawley responded.
“This affects real people with real lives. You’ve been called by the other side as an expert. You’ve been telling us you follow the science and the evidence…Based on that, can men get pregnant? Yes or no?”
Verma answered, “I think you’re trying to reduce the complexity of…”
“No, I’m not,” Hawley said.
“I’m trying to test your veracity. As a medical professional and a scientist, can men get pregnant?”
Verma replied, “I think you’re also conflating…”
“This is extraordinary,” Hawley said.
“No, I’m not conflating male and female; they’re two different things. Can men get pregnant?”
“What you’re talking about is biological males, uh…” Verma said.
“This isn’t hard, doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes or no?” Hawley asked.
“I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you that is not from a place of trying to be polarizing…” Verma responded.
“I’m not trying to be polarizing,” Hawley said.
“It’s extraordinary that we are in a hearing about science and about women. For the record, it is women who get pregnant, not men. I thought we were past all of this, frankly.”
Verma replied, “I am a person of science. I’m here to represent the complex experiences of women, my patients, and I don’t think polarized rhetoric or questions serve that goal.”
Hawley concluded, “It is not a polarizing question to say that there is a scientific difference between men and women…It is also by the way, the United States Constitution, which offers a variety of protections to women as women.”
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