THE OVAL OFFICE – President Donald Trump revealed to the Daily Caller that he is installing a “Presidential Wall of Fame” in the Rose Garden and will be hanging a “Biden Autopen” portrait to mark the Biden presidency.
The Daily Caller sat down with Trump for an hour-long interview Friday in the Oval Office. Trump took Reese to the Rose Garden to show her the renovations he was working on, including hanging all of the presidential portraits around the Rose Garden. The president told Reese that in between his two presidential portraits, he will put a photo of an “autopen” where Biden’s photo should be.
As House Republicans investigate the Biden administration’s use of the autopen, the former president previously admitted to The New York Times that he had directed his staff to use the autopen on pardons and commutations at the end of his term because there were too many.
The following is an excerpt from the Caller’s interview with the president. A full transcript of the conversation is available here.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: See what they’re doing outside [in the Rose Garden]. Putting up beautiful mirrors. Did you see the mirror out there? Did you?
DAILY CALLER WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT REAGAN REESE: I haven’t. No.
TRUMP: We’re doing what’s called the Presidential Wall of Fame.
REESE: Oh, yes, I think I did see this.
TRUMP: Come on, want to go watch?
REESE: Yeah, let’s go see it.
[TRUMP and REESE walk out of the Oval Office to Rose Garden for several minutes while Hotel California plays on the White House speakers.]
[TRUMP AND REESE sit back down in the Oval Office.]
REESE: On your ballroom, President Trump, would you like that to be named after you?
TRUMP: Named after who?
REESE: Named after you. The ballroom.
TRUMP: Oh, well, I’m the one that gets to name it. I hate to — I’m putting up my money and donations. You know, there’s no money by the government.
REESE: Well there’s the Lincoln Bedroom, the Roosevelt Room.
TRUMP: We should get her up to the Lincoln Bedroom and show it —
REESE: Okay, yeah.
TRUMP: I’m [fixing] up a lot of things. We’re right now building —
[TRUMP shows REESE the presidential portraits for the Rose Garden.]
President Donald Trump shows Daily Caller White House correspondent Reagan Reese the Rose Garden and where he will hang presidential portraits. [Photo Credit: Karoline Leavitt | White House]
REESE: I love the frames, I love the gold. [REESE references the portraits being shown.]
TRUMP: Is that unbelievable?
REESE: It’s very beautiful.
TRUMP: So that was done for very high-end paintings. I’m looking at frames and saying, ‘what about that one?’
REESE: You’re going to put President Biden up too?
TRUMP: Okay — show it.
TRUMP: Isn’t that an interesting question.
REESE: I’m curious.
TRUMP: And I’ll listen to you too, because it’s a decision I have to make. We put up a picture of the autopen.
REESE: Oh, that’s hilarious.
TRUMP: He didn’t win the race. He lost badly. He was a horrible president, but can you imagine, he says he has stage nine cancer. That was, what? Two, three months ago —
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REESE: I know. You were at the golf course that day, I was with you.
TRUMP: Stage nine. I’ve never heard of more than stage four. Stage four is the highest. I’ve never — if you’re stage four, you’re dead.
REESE: How come we didn’t know about it beforehand? That was suspicious to me. I don’t know if he knew.
TRUMP: Especially stage nine. Is there such a thing?
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR STEVEN CHEUNG: Never heard of it.
WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY KAROLINE LEAVITT: Me neither.
[TRUMP shows REESE what the ‘Biden Autopen’ portrait will look like in the Rose Garden.]
TRUMP: So what do you think?
REESE: I think you got to.
TRUMP: I gotta do it. Actually good, because it’ll —
REESE: I’m gonna put this in the transcript, and people are not gonna be happy that I gave you advice on this, but I think it’s very Trump.
TRUMP: You know, she could have that, right? It’s going up in about two weeks, because — it’s all being prepared.
LEAVITT: Could we give her that picture to run it?
TRUMP: Well, I’m not actually using this picture, and they’re all black and white…
REESE: I like that.
TRUMP: You know, you can’t … George Washington, he didn’t have too much.
REESE: He didn’t have colored photos.
TRUMP: So, but I think the black and white – same picture, but black and white. Yeah, and I’m not using that one with the smile. I’m using. Show the other one that we’re using because I like it. This is going to be very controversial.
REESE: It’s going to be funny.
TRUMP: It’s true, though, now they’re finding the autopen, which should not have been used, [Ian Sams], he spoke to Biden briefly twice about nothing.
REESE: The New York Times reported that Biden would give his top advisers verbal permission to use the autopen. Then they would tell their assistants. ‘[Biden] said, yes,’ they would then summarize, ‘yeah, this is what happened in the Oval Office.’ And then they would send that off to the woman who used the autopen. And I was like, this is a long game of telephone.
TRUMP: Were they doing that to try to justify it at The Times?
REESE: Well, that’s, I think that’s the question, when did they implement this? And why? Because – it’s a weird game of telephone.
TRUMP: From the beginning. So use that one.
[TRUMP shows REESE one of his presidential portraits.]
REESE: Okay, I like that one too.
TRUMP: That’s for the first, I use that one for the first campaign. So, you know, it goes with a year. Yeah. So we have two Grover Cleveland and Trump, right? We have two. So you put up two. I feel a little guilty doing it, because you could put up one, but the way they do it is they put up two, because it’s by the [inaudible]. So it’s cool, yeah. You know, where they do a good job with it? Not like this. They don’t have frames like that. [Trump references framed photos of presidential portraits he had his staff bring in the room to show Reese.] The Hilton. Did you ever go to the Hilton, where they have the big room?
REESE: No.
TRUMP: Backstage, they have, that’s the only one I’ve ever seen. They have. They must have Presidential Wall of Fames, right? I’ve never seen one except at the Hilton. Have you seen one other than that?
CHEUNG: Just at the Hilton?
TRUMP: Have you seen one other than that?
CHEUNG: No.
TRUMP: I mean, I’m sure they’re there, but, oh, now they’ll, now other people will [inaudible.]
House Republicans and the Trump administration are investigating Biden’s alleged use of the autopen to sign various documents while in the White House. Biden told the NYT in a brief interview that he “made every decision.”
The former president also discussed the pardons he made for prominent figures like his family or Gen. Mark A. Milley and Dr. Anthony Fauci. Biden reportedly signed only one pardon with his own hand from December to January, and that was for his son Hunter Biden. The former president told the outlet that he addressed each “high-profile pardon” personally with his aides. (RELATED: Biden Uses Final Hours Of Presidency To Let Fauci, Others Off The Hook)
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