An exchange on The Glenn Beck Program focused on allegations surrounding Renee Nicole Good and her reported ties to a radical activist group, as analyst Ryan Mauro detailed his findings and argued that the group’s activities meet the FBI’s definition of domestic terrorism.
During the segment, host Glenn Beck asked Mauro about what he had uncovered while reviewing reports connected to Good.
“Ryan, what’d you find last night?” Beck asked.
Mauro said his research was based in part on reporting from The New York Post and centered on an organization known as Minnesota ICE Watch.
“Sure. Well, according to The New York Post, she became involved with this group called Minnesota ICE Watch, through this school, this charter school, which I’m still looking into, and have some stuff that I want to verify before, before we get to that,” Mauro said.
Beck acknowledged the caveat, responding, “Sure.”
Mauro then turned his focus to Minnesota ICE Watch itself, describing the group’s public messaging and online activity.
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“But as for Minnesota ICE Watch, which is the group that would be actually on the streets, as opposed to the school,” Mauro said, “it was actually fairly easy research to do, because they were openly radical.”
According to Mauro, the group’s rhetoric and materials extend well beyond opposition to immigration enforcement.
“It turned out this isn’t really about the issue of protecting undocumented migrants, illegal immigrants, and protecting people from the abuse of the law enforcement it’s actually about doing things like eliminating America and setting cop cars on fire,” Mauro said.
Mauro said the group’s social media pages contain content that explicitly promotes violence against law enforcement.
“You go to their social media page, and it doesn’t take much work, actually, to find instructions on how to assault police in order to get free people open up cop car doors and pull people out,” he said.
He added that the group rejects the legitimacy of the United States as a nation.
“They do not recognize the United States as a legitimate country. They oppose that refer to it as Turtle Island,” Mauro said.
Reacting to the terminology, Beck interjected, “Oh my gosh. They’re Turtle Island people. Oh my gosh.”
Mauro explained that the term is used by some radical movements to describe North and Central America and is tied to broader ideological goals.
“But it goes to this belief that a lot of the anarchists and communists spread out there saying that, just like Israel should be referred to as Palestine, then all of North and Central America should be referred to as Turtle Island,” Mauro said.
“Because they say that the indigenous people, the Native Americans, that’s what they all referred to it as.”
Mauro said he had not found strong historical evidence supporting that claim but argued that the language serves a political purpose.
“And I’m not finding a ton of verification that’s actually true, but that’s what they say, in order to basically indirectly call for the destruction of the United States,” he said.
Mauro said the group’s calls to “liberate” Turtle Island amount to an implicit call for violence, particularly when paired with imagery and instructions he described.
“So and so when they start talking about liberating Turtle Island, that’s what they’re calling, and that’s why I’ve been calling the Turtle Island Intifada,” Mauro said.
He pointed to specific examples he found alarming.
“The one that’s really alarming to me, it says how to start a community defense center in your neighborhood,” Mauro said.
“And them and their allies usually say, Oh, wait, that’s where that just means we’re watching defending in terms of, like, we’ll give you the number to a lawyer. Well, that’s hard to say. When your post has a depiction of a cop car on fire.”
Beck’s co-host then pressed Mauro to explain his decision to label the group as a domestic terrorist organization, noting the seriousness of the claim.
“We dialed back some of the language on how we framed the headline of this,” the co-host said.
“We can definitely ascertain that it’s an extremist violent group ICE Watch is, but you went so far as to call it a domestic terrorist group that fits the definition of the FBI.”
The co-host asked Mauro to justify that characterization.
“Can you explain that? Because that’s pretty loaded, and if we’re going to make this claim about her reported ties to ICE Watch being a domestic terrorist group, please, please back that up,” the co-host said.
Mauro responded by citing the FBI’s published definition of domestic terrorism and applying it to the group’s activities as he described them.
“Yes, absolutely. I happen to have the FBI definition up here, actually,” Mauro said.
“So you go fbi.gov, you look at the definition of domestic terrorism, and it reads as follows.”
Mauro emphasized that his assessment depended on the accuracy of the reporting regarding Good’s alleged connection to the group.
“And again, this is dependent on the New York Post reporting saying New York Post says that she’s connected to this group,” he said.
Mauro then read from the definition.
“Violent criminal acts committed by individuals and or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, social, racial or environmental nature,” he said.
He concluded by explaining why he believes Minnesota ICE Watch meets that standard.
“So ideologically motivated violence that is criminal in nature, which, if you’re telling if you’re teaching your supporters how to free people from being in the possession of the police, I would say that fits the definition,” Mauro said.
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