Former CIA scientist Dr. Hal Puthoff made headlines this week after claiming on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast that the United States government has recovered more than ten non-human craft since the 1940s, with additional unidentified aerial phenomena reportedly retrieved by foreign nations.
Puthoff, 88, who formerly led the CIA’s remote viewing program under the Stargate Project, said that some of the recovered craft were not crash debris but fully intact vehicles left intentionally for human discovery.
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According to him, these recoveries include items from remote deserts, oceans, and possibly hidden bases located underwater or near mountainous terrain.
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“Some of them are donations to help us accelerate our forward motion,” Puthoff told host Joe Rogan.
“They donate something here, something in China, something in Russia, and see who is best at moving forward just as part of their ISR [intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance] evaluation of us.”
Puthoff said some of the craft date back to the infamous 1947 Roswell incident in New Mexico, which he described as “a true non-human intelligence craft.”
He cited confirmation from a military commander at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, where the Roswell debris was reportedly transferred. According to Puthoff, the commander told one of his colleagues, Dr. Eric Davis, that the crash was “the real deal.”
Davis, a physicist and Pentagon consultant, testified in a congressional hearing on Thursday, stating that the Department of Defense has been conducting UFO recovery operations since the Eisenhower administration.
Davis also alleged that the program has continued without congressional oversight, using regularly changing code names to obscure its existence.
Puthoff declined to elaborate on the scientific findings derived from the recovered materials.
When Rogan asked, “Did anything come out of that analysis?” Puthoff replied, “Not that the public would hear about. Not that I could disclose.”
Puthoff, whose background includes work in laser physics, energy research, and classified intelligence programs, said he continues to be bound by government secrecy agreements.
He described the level of compartmentalization around UFO recovery efforts as “really obscene,” noting that even some scientists working in the same facility are not allowed to share information with one another about the projects they are involved in.
He also referenced theories among his peers, including longtime UFO researcher Jacques Vallée, that suggest some of the craft may have arrived on Earth thousands of years ago.
Other theories point to a hidden race of advanced humans descending from Atlantis, allegedly operating from concealed bases away from modern civilization.
Despite the growing public interest in unidentified aerial phenomena and repeated calls for disclosure, Puthoff said his experience working on a classified 2004 project for the U.S. Navy convinced him that full transparency would lead to destabilizing consequences.
The project, conducted in Washington, D.C., brought together scientists, intelligence officials, and military personnel to assess the potential global impact of revealing the existence of extraterrestrials.
Government officials asked the group to consider both hypothetical and allegedly real cases where foreign governments had recovered alien technology and even biological specimens.
The panel analyzed the societal, economic, and political ramifications of disclosure. Puthoff said the task force identified roughly 60 areas of concern and assigned numerical scores measuring whether each impact would be positive or negative.
One example raised by Puthoff involved the government providing alien technology to a single private company, which would then outperform and bankrupt its competitors—prompting legal battles and widespread economic fallout.
“The outcome of that exercise was, if you’re thinking about disclosure, forget it,” Puthoff said.
To date, the U.S. government has not publicly confirmed the existence of any recovered extraterrestrial vehicles or biological entities.
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