Fox News host Martha MacCallum put National Security Communications Advisor John Kirby in the hot seat during a tense interview addressing the recent surge of drone sightings, particularly over New Jersey.
MacCallum pressed the White House official for answers as concerns grow about the government’s handling of these mysterious aerial activities.
The exchange began with MacCallum referencing Kirby’s earlier comments during a White House briefing, where he dismissed more than 3,000 reports of “car-sized” drones as “misidentifications.”
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MacCallum challenged him directly, saying, “A lot of people were unhappy with that comment you made yesterday and felt like you were telling people they were nuts or that they didn’t know what they were seeing with their own eyes.”
Kirby, a retired Navy admiral, appeared flustered and responded, “That’s the farthest thing that I would ever do. I was simply reiterating what the FBI and what the Department of Homeland Security have relayed to us about what they’ve been able to corroborate. We haven’t been able to corroborate everything. I said many of the corroborated sightings have turned out to be piloted aircrafts. I didn’t say all of them.” He added, “There’s certainly ones that we have not been able to, and we don’t know the answer to it.”
MacCallum then shifted to visual evidence, showing Kirby footage of a drone sighting captured by a New Jersey resident.
Kirby claimed he turned off the monitor to “avoid distractions,” prompting MacCallum to call out his reluctance to engage with clear evidence.
Instead, she described the image to Kirby, detailing a large object with a distinctive white bar and colored lights. “You’re a former military person yourself. You’re an admiral. You’re the White House National Security Communications Advisor. I’m sure you’ve seen some of these images. What is it that we’re looking at?” MacCallum asked.
Kirby’s response offered no clarity: “It’s difficult for me to tell you, Martha. We don’t really know.”
The interview then revisited the Biden-Harris administration’s handling of last year’s Chinese spy balloon incident, which the administration allowed to traverse U.S. airspace before shooting it down.
MacCallum noted that the administration had been aware of the intrusion but failed to act promptly.
Drawing a parallel, she asked, “Why don’t we know, John? That’s the point. Why doesn’t the United States government know? It seems silly. It feels a lot like the Chinese spy balloon.”
Kirby conceded, “I wish I could tell you exactly why we don’t have an answer for you here in the afternoon on the 13th of December.”
He insisted that the administration is “working very hard” to corroborate the sightings, though he provided no details on the investigation’s progress. “We want to answer those questions the same as those folks in New Jersey want answers to them,” he said.
MacCallum pressed further, questioning how a defense budget of $824 billion could fail to provide answers to a potential threat in U.S. airspace. “We spend $824 billion on defense. We have the greatest intelligent capability in the world. How can you stand there and say to the country right now, ‘Gosh, darn, we just don’t know what these are’?” she asked.
Kirby reiterated that the administration lacked enough conclusions to take decisive action, citing concerns for public safety. “You’re not going to want to shoot something down where it could hit somebody’s house or hurt somebody,” he said.
Kirby assured viewers that President Biden had tasked officials with investigating the drones, but a statement released on Thursday provided little reassurance.
According to Kirby, many of the sightings were determined to be “manned aircraft operating lawfully.”
Similarly, statements from the FBI and Department of Homeland Security concluded that the drones posed no national security or public safety threat.
Despite the reassurances, the lack of concrete answers continues to raise questions about the administration’s ability to address potential threats in U.S. airspace effectively.
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