Liberals Are Bad at Math, Liars, or Both

One of the most frustrating things about arguing with liberals is that for all the talk about trusting “The Science™,” they sure are bad at math. 

Or they are liars. 

Or both. 

In any case, their grasp of facts, or their portrayal of them, is usually deceptive. 

Case in point:

With a population of about 11% of the US, Canada has 5x the measles cases as we do. Look it up, idiots. https://t.co/sGVMzNuNsA

— David Strom (@DavidStrom) December 15, 2025

I have mentioned this before, and got roasted by a vaccine fanatic for trotting out numbers instead of focusing on what’s truly important, which is apparently promoting vaccines as if they are cure-alls with no downsides, but the fact is that the United States has, compared ot other Western countries, very low rates of measles. 

If you compare measles rates in the United States with those of our peer countries, including Canada, France, and Germany, we have the lowest per-capita rate, and the number of cases is so low that natural fluctuations of a few cases per year can make the shifts appear large. 

2024 per‑capita comparison

On a per‑million basis for 2024:

• France: 7.1 cases per 1,000,000 population.

• Germany: 0.9 cases per 1,000,000 population.

• United States: 285 cases in a population of about 336 million ≈ 0.8 cases per 1,000,000.

• Canada: 285 cases in a population of about 41 million ≈ 6.9 cases per 1,000,000, giving Canada a far higher rate than the US in 2024 despite the same absolute case count.

Germany and the United States have comparable rates, with extremely few cases in any given year, while Canada and France have a relatively high level of cases for Western countries, comparable to each other. 

As for rates of increase? Natural variations account for that, although until a trend can be established, we can’t rule out the possibility that RFK, Jr.’s skepticism might affect future cases. But certainly there is no evidence of that yet. 

How do I know? In 2025, Canada’s per capita rate for measles was 125 per 1,000,000, while the US’s rate was 5.6. In other words, Canada currently has a rate 25 times higher than the United States, suggesting that something other than a few months of vaccine skepticism is at work in the variation. 

Not that any of these facts matter to liberals who “trust The Science™.” It doesn’t “feel” right to them, so it must be false. 

Vaccines are a TOOL, not a totem, and like all tools, they have good points and bad, costs and benefits. Why is there an MMR vaccine instead of separate vaccines, for instance? Convenience. Why are so many vaccines given in such close proximity in time? The kids are there, and the doctors can jab them all at once. Why are all vaccines treated as if they are all equally safe and effective? Because they are not seen as tools, but as a religious rite by some people, not to be examined too closely. 

Me? I prefer an actual scientific approach where all the costs and benefits of each jab is examined and weighed, the vaccine schedule as a whole is examined to determine whether there is a better and safer way to give vaccines, and above all, consent only follows complete information provided to parents and other patients. 

In other words, a focus on reason and evidence, not woo-woo pseudoscience, from either the skeptics or the advocates. When Rochelle Walensky goes nuts over delaying the Hep B vaccine for infants, that didn’t come from science. It came from a fear that people might not choose to follow her advice. 

Few infants need a vaccine for a disease associated with IV drug use and promiscuous sex. That’s obvious. If there is any hint of risks associated with the jab, it should be delayed at the very least. Making infants take the jab when their risk is almost zilch is no different than demanding that monogamous married couples use HIV PreP before intercourse. 

Unfortunately, we can’t have rational conversations because everything is political.