Vice President J.D. Vance shared a lighthearted anecdote during a Christmas party he hosted Friday, recounting an unexpected moment in the Oval Office earlier that day involving President Donald Trump and several senior officials, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, as reported by The New York Post.
According to Vance, the group had been discussing an important matter when Trump abruptly paused the meeting.
“Today I’m in the Oval Office with the president,” Vance told attendees.
“And we’re talking about something really, really important. And the president kind of holds up his hand and says, ‘No, no, hold on a second, there’s something much more important.’”
Vance said Trump looked over the Resolute Desk and told him and Rubio, “Marco, JD, you guys have s–tty shoes. We got to get you better shoes.” Trump then stepped out of the room and returned with a shoe catalog.
At that point, Vance said Trump began asking the group for their shoe sizes and announced he would be giving each of them four pairs.
Vance told the crowd he wears a size 13 shoe, Rubio wears an 11.5, and a third unnamed politician — whom Vance declined to identify — admitted to wearing a size 7.
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Vance said Trump reacted to the exchange by leaning back and remarking, “You know, you can tell a lot about a man by his shoe size.”
The moment prompted laughter from Vance’s audience, who recognized the callback to a widely noted exchange between Trump and Rubio during a 2016 Republican presidential primary debate.
Vice President JD Vance just dropped a hilarious Oval Office story leaving the entire room cracking up.
President Trump glanced over the Resolute Desk at VP Vance and Secretary Marco Rubio and said, “You guys have shitty shoes.”
Right then and there, Trump pulled out a shoe… pic.twitter.com/3Z2xyh9MZK
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) December 6, 2025
At that debate, Rubio had made a reference to Trump’s “small hands,” prompting Trump to respond directly.
“I have to say this, he hit my hands. Nobody has ever hit my hands,” Trump said at the time.
“Look at those hands. Are they small hands? And he referred to my hands if they’re small, something else must be small. I guarantee you there’s no problem. I guarantee you.”
Vance told partygoers that interactions like Friday’s are consistent with the public image many Americans already have of the president.
“A lot of my interactions with Trump are exactly as you would expect it to look like if you watched on TV or just paid attention to the media,” Vance said.
“But sometimes you get these behind-the-scenes moments that I will never, ever forget for the rest of my life.”
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