Usha Vance, wife of Vice President J.D. Vance, gave her most personal interview yet last week on Citizen McCain, the podcast hosted by Meghan McCain.
The conversation covered her background, family life, and her new role as second lady, as well as her ongoing efforts to promote literacy among children through a nationwide summer reading challenge.
Until recently, Usha Vance maintained a relatively low public profile despite a distinguished legal background.
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A Yale-educated attorney who clerked for Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and Judge Amul Thapar, she is now one of the youngest women to serve in a prominent executive branch family.
The interview shed light on how the Vances met and how their relationship developed. Usha recalled meeting J.D. during a Yale library tour.
“He was funny. He, you know, didn’t take everything too seriously. He was just obviously really good friend material right off the bat,” she said.
They began as friends, but that changed as J.D. opened up about his upbringing.
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“It really was when he started to talk more about where he was from and what made him this kind of person… that I started to think of him in this different way,” Usha said.
Though it had been rumored that law professor Amy Chua had a role in setting them up, Usha clarified that Chua’s influence came later, when she helped J.D. recognize what truly mattered to him.
That helped them decide on their future together, including Usha making legal career choices that allowed them to marry earlier and live in the same cities.
The interview also explored their home life.
The couple is raising their three children—ages eight, five, and three—in a two-faith household.
Usha is Hindu, and J.D. is Catholic.
Their children attend Catholic school but also learn about Hindu traditions, language, and culture through family visits, travel, and books.
Their eldest son has already chosen to be baptized.
Usha spoke candidly about parenting in the public eye.
She emphasized the importance of structure and balance for their children, including rules about household responsibilities and screen time.
“We don’t use tablets as babysitters, even on planes,” she said.
Despite the visibility that comes with being the second family, she and J.D. remain committed to raising their children with a sense of normalcy.
As for her adjustment to public life, Usha said it can be “uncomfortable” at times—particularly with the added attention and security.
“I try to do that every day, just have a normal life that is in public and ignore that people are watching it,” she said.
Though she is currently not practicing law, Usha said she is using this time for personal growth, learning German, exercising more, reading, and even making toys for her children. When asked if she sees herself eventually becoming first lady, she responded: “I’m not plotting out next steps… Just sort of along for the ride and enjoying it while I can.”
One of her main initiatives as second lady is promoting childhood literacy. She launched a summer reading challenge that encourages children to read 12 books over the summer.
One grand prize winner will receive a trip to Washington, D.C., and a personal White House tour with the Vances.
“The more you get drawn into a book, the less you’re doing something else,” Usha said.
“I think literacy is maybe the antidote to all of this.”
She cited concerns about declining literacy rates and growing distractions from digital devices.
“I don’t want that for my children,” she said.
“I want them to be able to sit down and focus… and come to their own conclusions.”
Usha Vance’s remarks come as the second family continues to settle into their historic roles.
Though her political views have drawn curiosity—she was once a registered Democrat—Usha made clear in the interview that her focus is not on politics but on her family and the responsibilities of public life.
More information about the reading challenge is available on the official White House website.
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