White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller appeared on CNN’s State of the Union with Jake Tapper to discuss immigration and the impact of illegal labor on the U.S. economy.
The exchange grew tense as Miller pushed back against the idea that illegal alien labor is essential for American agriculture, arguing that the majority of illegal aliens settle in urban areas rather than working on farms.
Tapper raised concerns about how deporting illegal aliens might affect the economy, specifically the agricultural sector.
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“Jobs many Americans do not want to do. So how does President Trump make sure that the effort to deport people who are not in this country legally doesn’t end up hurting Americans who want safe borders, absolutely, but also don’t want to see even more higher prices and groceries?” Tapper asked.
Miller rejected the premise, making it clear that illegal alien labor is not a crucial component of the agricultural workforce.
“Well, I’m sure it’s not your position, Jake, you’re just asking the question that we should supply America’s food with exploitative illegal alien labor,” Miller responded.
“I obviously don’t think that’s what you’re implying. Only 1% of alien workers in the entire country work in agriculture. The top destination for illegal aliens are large cities like New York, like Los Angeles, and small industrial towns, of course, all across the heartland as we’ve seen with the Biden floods. None of those illegal aliens are doing farm work, those 30,000 illegal aliens that Joe Biden dumped into Springfield…”
Tapper attempted to interrupt, shifting the discussion back to agriculture.
“I’m talking about the ones that are…” Tapper interjected.
Miller pushed forward, emphasizing the facts behind his argument.
“No, no, no, but no. But I’m explaining this. It’s important to understand…” Miller continued.
“No, you’re kind of changing the subject,” Tapper responded.
Miller insisted on addressing the issue in full.
“I will, I will go, I will give me 30 minutes. I’ll go as deep as you want this,” he said.
Tapper reiterated his focus.
“I’m talking about the ones that could that work in the agriculture industry. You can come back and talk about the ones that work in the cities, I swear,” Tapper said.
Miller then made it clear that Biden’s border policies were not about filling farm jobs but about flooding American cities with dependents.
“I’ll do that. I’ll do the whole answer. The illegal aliens that Joe Biden brought into our country are not, full stop, doing farm work. They are not. The illegal aliens he brought in from Venezuela, from Haiti, from Nicaragua. They are not doing farm work. They are in our cities collecting welfare,” Miller said.
He went on to note that Trump supports legal guest worker programs for agriculture while also pushing for automation to reduce reliance on manual labor.
“As for the farmers, there is a guest worker program that President Trump supports. Over time as well, we will transition into automation so we’ll never have to have this conversation ever again,” Miller stated.
Miller also emphasized the importance of law enforcement in addressing illegal immigration and criminal activity tied to it.
“But there’s no universe in which this nation is going to allow the previous president to flood our nation with millions and millions of illegal aliens who just get to stay here, and we are especially not going to allow a subset of those illegal aliens to rape and murder our citizens,” Miller said.
“So we are going to unapologetically enforce our immigration laws, and as I’m sure you will celebrate, we are going to unleash the power and might of the U.S. government, to eradicate the presence of transnational threats on our soil.”
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The exchange highlighted the stark contrast between the Biden administration’s policies and the Trump administration’s approach to border security.
Miller’s remarks reinforced the argument that the influx of illegal aliens is not about supporting American agriculture but about overloading urban systems, while the Trump administration remains committed to strong enforcement and national security.
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