During an appearance on America’s Voice Live, Rep. Harriet Hageman (R-WY) and host Steve Gruber raised concerns about judicial interference in executive authority and the unchecked power of the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).
The discussion centered on what they described as a constitutional crisis, where courts are stripping the President’s authority over federal agencies, and USAID’s lack of oversight in spending billions of taxpayer dollars on questionable foreign programs.
Hageman warned that recent court rulings have created a dangerous precedent by preventing the President of the United States from exercising control over federal agencies, including hiring, firing, and budgetary decisions.
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“What we’re seeing by these battles, and what you’re seeing, what by, what with what these judges are holding is they’re saying there’s not only no legislative accountability, we’re not even going to allow the chief executive officer that was properly elected by the electorate of the United States of America to control and administer and oversee these agencies,” Hageman said.
She described the situation as unprecedented, arguing that the courts have effectively allowed administrative agencies to operate without accountability to either Congress or the President.
“I have never heard of a circumstance where a court has held that the chief executive, the highest elected official in government, does not have the ability to determine how much they’re going to have in terms of personnel, what where they’re going to have, what offices are going to be downsized, how they’re going to hire,” she added.
“That is such a classic example of the authority of the chief executive over these agencies.”
Gruber echoed her concerns, emphasizing that these agencies fall under the executive branch and should be subject to direct presidential control.
“Clearly under his purview, it’s the executive branch. These are executive agencies. You should be able to hire and fire and do as you need to do to run the executive branch,” Gruber said.
“But that’s not what happens. These activist judges seem to go in a different direction.”
The discussion then turned to USAID, an agency that manages billions in taxpayer dollars yet refuses to answer to Congress.
Gruber pointed out outrageous expenditures by USAID, including funding for gender reassignment surgeries in Guatemala and transgender-themed operas in Colombia.
“Talking about oversight and accountability, of course, in the headlines now USAID spending money on, God only knows what, Guatemalan sex change operations for children, transsexual operas in Colombia,” Gruber said.
“And the list is—it’s a mind-blowing list, Madam Congresswoman. And for me, it’s outrageous. But what’s more outrageous? USAID doesn’t think they have to answer to anyone? Oh no, no, we don’t. We don’t answer to you. I mean, are you kidding me right now?”
Hageman confirmed that USAID has long resisted congressional oversight, operating as an independent “rogue agency” with little transparency.
“That’s been very clear, and they do not come within the jurisdiction of the committees that I have been on, but I have talked to other representatives, and they’ve said that USAID has refused any kind of accountability or oversight for years,” Hageman said.
“They truly do believe that they are a rogue agency or a rogue government in and of themselves, and they’re entitled to do whatever it is that they want.”
Hageman emphasized the staggering $50 billion budget of USAID, arguing that beyond the wasteful spending, the agency has played a role in undermining U.S. moral authority and destabilizing governments worldwide—all without congressional or State Department approval.
“Now, what I want to say is that the amount of money that we spend on this agency is outrageous, $50 billion and counting,” she said.
“But I think it’s more insidious than that. What we’ve done is we have created a monster within our own midst that has been working diligently around the world to undermine our moral authority, undermine our culture, undermine and destabilize governments without any involvement with Congress, without any involvement by the State Department. We truly do have a rogue agency.”
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With concerns mounting over both judicial overreach and out-of-control spending, Hageman and Gruber stressed the urgent need for reform.
They argued that federal agencies must be held accountable and that the President’s authority over the executive branch must be restored.
As the 2024 election cycle continues, the debate over bureaucratic overreach and wasteful government spending is expected to take center stage, with growing calls for greater transparency and accountability in agencies like USAID.
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